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04/15/2014 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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                SB 166-BOARD OF NURSING; NURSES                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:46:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  announced that the  next order of business  would be                                                               
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 166(FIN),  "An Act relating to nursing and                                                               
to the Board of Nursing."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CATHY GIESSEL, Alaska State  Legislature, stated that she                                                               
holds  two  licenses under  the  jurisdictions  of the  Board  of                                                               
Nursing  (BON), as  a registered  nurse (RN)  and as  an advanced                                                               
nurse practitioner (ANP).   She has served two terms  on the BON,                                                               
serving five years as chair.  She  said SB 166 is a "clean-up" or                                                               
"revisor's"  bill.   The Legislative  Legal  Services doesn't  do                                                               
revisor's  bills for  professional  boards due  to the  technical                                                               
nature.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:47:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  stated that this  bill revises the  board member                                                               
qualifications, requiring that licensed  practical nurses have at                                                               
least two  years of clinical  practice before being  appointed to                                                               
the BON.   The registered nurse or nurse educator  on the BON can                                                               
also be working in a  program that provides graduate, bachelor's,                                                               
or associate  degrees, noting  that, previously,  the requirement                                                               
was for  a minimum of  a bachelor's  degree.  The  advanced nurse                                                               
practitioner must  have at  a minimum of  four years  of advanced                                                               
practice prior  to being appointed  to the board.   Additionally,                                                               
the bill establishes a retired  nurse status and "cleans up" some                                                               
practical nurse education  program criteria.  She  noted that the                                                               
qualifications  and duties  of the  executive administrator  have                                                               
been revised.   The term has changed from  executive secretary to                                                               
administrator  and   requires  the  person  to   have  a  minimum                                                               
education of a Masters' degree in Nursing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:48:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  said  that  this   has  been  raised  in  other                                                               
committees so  she elaborated that  holding an advance  degree is                                                               
rather   common,  and   there   are  over   900  advanced   nurse                                                               
practitioners  (ANPs)  in  Alaska.     She  commented  that  this                                                               
represents the  minimal level of entry  for an ANP.   She related                                                               
that for the  past 25 years, the executive  administrator has had                                                               
either a  masters' degree or a  doctorate.  In fact,  the current                                                               
administrator  holds  a  Ph.D.,  she said.    She  explained  the                                                               
changes  made  for   testing,  such  that  SB   166  removes  the                                                               
requirement  for   written  exams  since  electronic   exams  are                                                               
administered.    The  bill  would  repeal  language  that  allows                                                               
licensing  through   the  Canadian  Nurses   Association  testing                                                               
examination, which  is no longer  considered valid  for licensure                                                               
in  the  U.S.    The  bill removes  an  obsolete  term,  licensed                                                               
vocational nurse.   Under the  bill, the board would  continue to                                                               
do  background checks  and competency  requirements to  reinstate                                                               
lapsed licenses.  The board  allows a physician's assistant to be                                                               
authorized to supervise a licensed  practical nurse and would add                                                               
a new  section that  requires an  employer to  report to  the BON                                                               
when a nurse or nurse aide  is fired or suspended.  She explained                                                               
the reporting  is no longer required  to be done under  oath.  It                                                               
would  also provide  protection  for nurses  that  may refuse  to                                                               
delegate  a task  if  the person  delegated  to lacks  sufficient                                                               
training.    The reporting  was  deemed  important since  it  may                                                               
require disciplinary action be taken by the BON.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:50:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  related  the  committee  hearings  raised  some                                                               
issues.  One  concern related to the  criminal background checks,                                                               
noting that the BON has  performed criminal background checks for                                                               
a number of years.   Health care professionals have very intimate                                                               
contact with  their patients and Alaska  is an "end of  the road"                                                               
jurisdiction  so  criminal  background   checks  have  been  very                                                               
important to  ensure public safety.   In fact, the  BON's mission                                                               
is  to  ensure safety  through  the  regulation of  safe  nursing                                                               
practices.   In 2009,  someone asked  the executive  director why                                                               
barrier crimes were  being imposed on nurses  practicing in their                                                               
facilities.  It turns out  that the federal government had placed                                                               
a  restriction  on any  health  care  facility receiving  federal                                                               
funds.   The BON does not  have any barrier crimes  to licensure.                                                               
It  has conducted  background checks;  however, any  questionable                                                               
criminal background  is reviewed  individually by  the BON.   She                                                               
acknowledged  that  for  the  most part,  the  BON  continues  to                                                               
license the individual  unless the crime is egregious,  such as a                                                               
murder conviction.  Since the  federal government created barrier                                                               
crimes and  required a second background  check, some duplication                                                               
exists.   The BON has  contacted the Federal  Executive Institute                                                               
(FEI)  on  numerous  occasions  and has  been  advised  that  the                                                               
federal  administrative  procedure  restricts the  sharing  of  a                                                               
criminal background check by one entity with another.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  referred to an  audit performed by  the Division                                                               
of  Legislative Audit.    She pointed  out that  the  BON was  in                                                               
compliance for the authorized use  of criminal background checks,                                                               
but  were found  out of  compliance  since the  board stores  its                                                               
records for  license applications  in the  Alaska archives.   She                                                               
characterized this as being a "ding"  by the FBI, which shows how                                                               
stringent the  agency is in terms  of sharing the document.   She                                                               
referred  to page  3 of  the  audit that  showed the  BON was  in                                                               
compliance in  having a reason  to request the information.   She                                                               
said  these  audits  are  "very  real," and  the  FBI  takes  its                                                               
jurisdiction   and  prevention   of  sharing   background  checks                                                               
seriously.   Some health care  providers finish  their education,                                                               
seek licensure,  and must submit  to a criminal  background check                                                               
for the  BON for licensure.   She related  a scenario in  which a                                                               
nurse then applies  for work at a hospital in  Bethel.  The nurse                                                               
must submit  to a second  background check.   On March  21, 2014,                                                               
the BON formulated a subcommittee  that plans to meet this summer                                                               
with Alaska  State Hospital and Nursing  Home Association (ASHNA)                                                               
and  the FBI  to discuss  and  find solutions  for the  duplicate                                                               
requirements and associated costs to new employees.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:54:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  next  referred  to   an  issue  raised  by  the                                                               
Christian  Science  Committee on  Publication  for  Alaska.   She                                                               
stated  that  as a  religious  community,  the Christian  Science                                                               
community has  religious ministers  that the community  refers to                                                               
as "nurses."   She explained  that these ministers go  into homes                                                               
and  provide services  such  as  cooking, bathing,  housekeeping,                                                               
encouragement, and  spiritual guidance.   These services  are all                                                               
non-medical.  She noted that  the Christian Science Community has                                                               
come to the BON on  numerous occasions requesting an exemption to                                                               
use the protected  term "nurse" for their church  members who are                                                               
preforming these services.  The  board has repeatedly denied this                                                               
exemption since "nurse"  is a protected term.  She  referred to a                                                               
letter [dated September 3, 2013]  from the Department of Law that                                                               
limits the term  of "nurse" since AS  08.68.340 (a)(4) identifies                                                               
a  nurse as  a  medical  health care  provider  and  it would  be                                                               
inappropriate to  make an  exemption.   Also, the  BON recognizes                                                               
that the public assigns a certain identity to the term "nurse."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:56:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked about  notice to  the board  of a                                                               
termination of a  nurse.  He asked whether that  is done in other                                                               
professions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  answered  yes,  that  the  BON  provisions  are                                                               
modeled after the state medical profession statutes.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  surmised that  the  BON  would make  a                                                               
distinction  for personality  conflicts and  not much  more would                                                               
happen.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  answered that would raise  other questions about                                                               
fair employment practices.  She  clarified that these are related                                                               
to professional conduct and competency.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  referred   to  the  Christian  Science                                                               
Committee on  Publication letter  in members' packets  that read,                                                               
"Notably,  the   Alaska  Medical  Practice  Act   already  has  a                                                               
religious  exception in  place."   He asked  whether any  analogy                                                               
exists.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  said she has  reviewed the medical  statutes and                                                               
the statement exists;  however, she recalled the  next section of                                                               
statutes relates  to the  definitions and it  is very  clear that                                                               
the term "physician"  and "doctor" are protected  terms under the                                                               
medical statutes.   The medial board does not  allow other people                                                               
to use  the terms,  "physician" or  "medical doctor"  unless they                                                               
are scientifically and medically trained physicians.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  remarked that  the  committee  has seen  naturopath                                                               
issues that have arisen in terms of the title "doctor."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  recalled  that  naturopaths  advertise                                                               
themselves in that manner.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  responded that the naturopaths  advertise themselves                                                               
as being "naturopathic  doctors" or "NDs."  He  asked the sponsor                                                               
if the BON has had that experience.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL agreed he is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:58:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked whether some compromise  could be                                                               
reached  in which  the Christian  Science community  could use  a                                                               
term other than  "nurse" or term that said "pastoral  nurse."  He                                                               
further asked whether that has been discussed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL said  it has and the  Christian Science community                                                               
wants to use  the term "nurse."  She explained  that the BON does                                                               
not  have  any  opposition  to   the  services  provided  by  the                                                               
spiritual guides but the term  "nurse" is protected.  She offered                                                               
her  belief  that  Alaska's  citizens   believe  that  a  "nurse"                                                               
represents a medically trained individual.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked for  the reason that  the Christian                                                               
Science community  has for using  the term  "nurse" and if  it is                                                               
motivated  by  respect,   professional  standing,  or  additional                                                               
billing status.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  answered that using  the term would  enable them                                                               
to advertise and to be reimbursed by insurance for services.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:00:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER referred  to page 4, line  2, to paragraph                                                               
(3),  to  the required  education  for  a  practical nurse.    He                                                               
related his  understanding that if  a registered nurse  fails the                                                               
exam, the individual could be licensed as a practical nurse.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  agreed.   This  is  something the  board  would                                                               
review  before   licensure.    She  deferred   to  the  executive                                                               
administrator to provide more details.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:01:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  suggested that the  Christian Science  community may                                                               
wish to  seek a  separate bill  to address  their issue  since it                                                               
would raise several other concerns.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  referred to  page  3,  paragraph (10)  of                                                               
Section 2.  He commended Dr.  Nancy Sanders, who was helpful with                                                               
respect to nurse aide classes in  rural Alaska.  He said that she                                                               
helped foster a  solution for the Bethel Health Center.   He said                                                               
he was considering  an amendment.  He asked  whether the existing                                                               
AS  08.68.101 could  be  amended  to allow,  but  not require,  a                                                               
criminal background check previously ordered by the department.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    HERRON    appreciated    hearing    that    the                                                               
administrator,  Dr. Nancy  Sanders, will  convene a  workgroup to                                                               
work  with all  the parties  with respect  to the  FBI ruling  on                                                               
criminal background  checks.  He  suggested that this  would give                                                               
the  board an  opportunity to  use the  background check  working                                                               
group in anticipation that the  legislature could address the law                                                               
next session.   In  this way  the working group  could work  on a                                                               
solution,  totally   within  their  purview,  but   come  to  the                                                               
legislature next session.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  acknowledged this  is the  reason the  board has                                                               
convened the  subcommittee; however, she expressed  concern about                                                               
inserting permissive  language in the event  a potential licensee                                                               
contests the  board saying  it could  have used  another criminal                                                               
background  check.  [Referring to  the  2/11/14  letter from  the                                                               
executive administrator, Nancy Sanders,  that under AS 08.68.344]                                                               
the  Board  of Nursing  may  deny  a  certification or  impose  a                                                               
disciplinary  sanction.   She hoped  the FBI  will be  helpful in                                                               
finding a solution, although she  did find letters dating back to                                                               
2007 denying the  double use.  Thus, she was  unsure of the FBI's                                                               
outcome and  how quickly it  might act.   She offered  her belief                                                               
that  it is  possible  to  more quickly  address  the issue  next                                                               
session based  on the interim work.   At that point  the BON will                                                               
know if  it has permission  to use  the background check  for two                                                               
different  facilities;   however,  currently  it  may   just  add                                                               
confusion  to the  administration  of  the licensing  procedures.                                                               
She deferred to the executive administrator.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:06:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON asked  whether the  FBI's initial  concern                                                               
was  about a  Department  of Health  and  Social Services  (DHSS)                                                               
requested background check.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL answered  yes.  She read [from  a U.S. Department                                                               
of  Justice] letter  dated July  5,  2005, which  read, in  part,                                                               
"Criminal history  information obtained under this  authority may                                                               
be  used  solely   for  the  purpose  requested   and  cannot  be                                                               
disseminated   outside   the   receiving   departments,   related                                                               
agencies, or other authorized entities."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:07:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  looked  forward  to the  outcome  of  the                                                               
working group.   He  referred to  proposed language  [in members'                                                               
packets,  not  yet offered]  that  would  amend AS  08.68.101  to                                                               
allow,  but not  require, use  of a  background check  previously                                                               
ordered  by  the  department.   He  asked  whether  his  proposed                                                               
language would help, in advance of the working group's solution.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SANDERS,  Ph.D.,  RN; Executive  Administrator,  Board  of                                                               
Nursing,   Department   of   Commerce,   Community   &   Economic                                                               
Development answered  that she thought  it would be  premature to                                                               
do so.   She suggested some decisions  need to be made.   The BON                                                               
asked for background  checks to make a  decision about licensing.                                                               
The DHSS asked for an  employment background check, which are two                                                               
very  separate  purposes.    In  terms  of  putting  in  proposed                                                               
language  changes, the  BON  does not  currently  have a  process                                                               
since  the FBI  will not  allow sharing  the criminal  background                                                               
information.   She understood the  DHSS could not share  with the                                                               
Board of Nursing and hoped  more information would be forthcoming                                                               
via the work group to figure out how to streamline this.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:10:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  asked  what  talent and  skill  sets  Dr.                                                               
Sanders will bring to the work group.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS envisioned a representative  from DHSS would serve on                                                               
the work  group.  She  also hoped she would  serve, as well  as a                                                               
member  from   the  Alaska  State   Hospital  and   Nursing  Home                                                               
Association.   She  suggested that  someone from  the FBI  should                                                               
provide  consultation  and  added  that the  full  complement  of                                                               
people to serve has not yet been identified.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:11:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON asked  whether she  would consider  adding                                                               
someone from  the Kuskokwim Health Corporation  to participate in                                                               
the work group.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDERS answered she would  entertain that idea; however, she                                                               
said  that the  proposed  language would  not  just affect  nurse                                                               
aides but  would affect everyone  licensed by the  BON, including                                                               
registered  nurses,  licensed  practical  nurses,  and  certified                                                               
nurse  assistants.    She  suggested   she  would  like  a  broad                                                               
representation, including  someone from  a rural setting  such as                                                               
the Yukon Kuskokwim Delta.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON suggested the language could affect 16,000 people.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS acknowledged  that's the current number,  but it also                                                               
would affect those  applying to be licensed or  certified as well                                                               
as those seeking reinstatement.  It  might be 1,000 to 1,300 more                                                               
per year, she said.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON noted that was a significant number.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON asked  to put on record that  he would like                                                               
the FBI involved in the work group.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL answered  that she believed that  was the intent.                                                               
She  also appreciated  the suggestion  to have  a rural  facility                                                               
represented.   She acknowledged that  the board  seeks geographic                                                               
distribution in its composition, too.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  whether she  would  work with  Representative                                                               
Herron on a letter of intent to SB 166.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL answered that she would be happy to do so                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:14:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  referred to page  2, line 16,  which adds                                                               
retired nurse status.   He asked what activities  a retired nurse                                                               
would be allowed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS answered  that this category of licensure  is one the                                                               
BON is  continually asked to issue.   This does not  allow nurses                                                               
to  continue  to  work,  even  in  a  voluntary  capacity.    She                                                               
characterized  it as  keeping an  honorarium since  nurses worked                                                               
hard  for their  licenses  and  would like  to  be recognized  as                                                               
nurses.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:15:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  clarified that  it doesn't allow  them to                                                               
practice.   He asked whether there  is any legal status  given to                                                               
retired nurses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS answered no; it just provides an honorary title.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   related  that   he  is  married   to  a                                                               
registered nurse.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER said  the sponsor  statement states  that                                                               
this is  the first improvement  to nursing statutes in  10 years.                                                               
He asked for any trends in nursing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SANDERS offered  her  belief  that a  bill  would likely  be                                                               
introduced  next   year  to   introduce  the   advanced  practice                                                               
registered nurses  (APRNs) consensus model for  advanced practice                                                               
nurses.    Currently a  subgroup,  the  APRN alliance,  has  been                                                               
working on the  national movement.  She envisioned  that if nurse                                                               
practitioners or certified nurse midwives  move out of state that                                                               
their practice would be similar to their practice in Alaska.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   referred  to   page  2,  line   17,  to                                                               
subparagraph   (D),  which   read,  "establishing   criteria  for                                                           
approval  of  practical nurse  education  programs  that are  not                                                           
accredited by  a national  nursing accrediting  body;"   He asked                                                           
whether the programs are educational programs in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS  said that many  practical nurse  programs throughout                                                               
the U.S.  are not nationally accredited  nursing programs through                                                               
the national nursing  accreditation.  This would  allow the board                                                               
to consider  an applicant's transcript  to determine  whether the                                                               
applicant has  met the same  educational standard as  programs in                                                               
the state.  She explained  that the regulations in Alaska require                                                               
the   practical    nurse   program   "will"    achieve   national                                                               
accreditation,  but  many  programs  in  the  Lower  48  are  not                                                               
nationally accredited.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked  whether   the  BON  expects  many                                                               
applicants to come from non-accredited programs.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:18:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. SANDERS  said there  are a significant  number of  people who                                                               
have  graduated   from  these  programs  that   might  apply  for                                                               
licensure in Alaska.  She was  unsure of the percentage, but they                                                               
may  be  accredited through  a  regional  accreditation, but  not                                                               
specifically  a nursing  accreditation.   There  is one  advanced                                                               
practice nurse program  (APN) in Alaska, which  is moving towards                                                               
becoming nationally nursing accredited.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:19:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked for an  assessment of the quality of                                                               
education for consumers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  SANDERS  answered  that the  BON  currently  licenses  APNs;                                                               
however,  the BON  is tightening  its  regulations about  nursing                                                               
education, regarding the minimum level  of education.  This would                                                               
allow the BON  to scrutinize their education.   Currently, as the                                                               
administrator, she will go the  applicant's home jurisdiction and                                                               
board  site  and  compare the  minimum  qualifications  for  that                                                               
jurisdiction  and   compare  it   to  Alaska's   requirements  to                                                               
determine equivalency.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:21:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANA  SHOCKMAN,   Registered  Nurse,  President,   Alaska  Nurses                                                               
Association,  related that  the ANA  supports the  requirement in                                                               
this  bill for  the executive  administrator to  hold a  Master's                                                               
degree in  Nursing as  a minimum.   This position  requires broad                                                               
knowledge of nursing  issues that range from  the certified nurse                                                               
assistant   (CNA)  level   to   the   advanced  practice   nurse.                                                               
Historically,  this position  has been  filled for  the past  two                                                               
decades  with  that background.    She  reported that  there  are                                                               
currently more than  1,000 nurses who meet  that qualification in                                                               
Alaska.  The ANA believes  that any background check amendment is                                                               
premature.   The plans  underway for the  work group  meeting are                                                               
also supported  by the  ANA.   She stated that  the ANA  does not                                                               
support the  Christian Science  nurses use  of the  title "nurse"                                                               
although it  recognizes the value  of the services  they provide.                                                               
She pointed out  that the Christian Science  spiritual guides are                                                               
not educated as nurses.  The  use of the title could be confusing                                                               
to  the public.   She  concluded that  the ANA  supports SB  166,                                                               
without any amendments.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BETH  FARNSTROM,  Registered  Nurse;  Chair,  Board  of  Nursing,                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community  & Economic Development, stated                                                               
that  the BON  supports SB  166, without  any amendments  for the                                                               
various reasons previously stated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PATRICIA  SENNER, Advanced  Nurse  Practitioner  (ANP), asked  to                                                               
speak in support of SB 166 as has been brought to the committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:24:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  PURDUE, President  & CEO,  Alaska  State Hospital  Nursing                                                               
Home Association  (ASHNHA), stated that the  association supports                                                               
this  bill  and is  interested  in  having the  background  issue                                                               
addressed.    She emphasized  that  the  ASHNHA employs  numerous                                                               
nurses  and nursing  assistants in  their facilities.   She  said                                                               
that  ASHNHA depends  on the  BON  to maintain  a qualified  work                                                               
force.   She offered support  for rigorous  licensing, background                                                               
checks,  and the  type  of work  that the  board  conducts.   She                                                               
clarified that  the complexity of  the background check  has been                                                               
added to  because the  legislature passed  another bill  in 2008.                                                               
She  recalled that  Representative  Herron referred  to the  DHSS                                                               
background check.   Part of  the issue  arises from the  FBI, but                                                               
also part  of it  is that  the state  has a  duplicate background                                                               
check system.   Basically,  each individual who  is working  in a                                                               
facility  licensed by  the DHSS  or paid  by the  department must                                                               
submit to a background check conducted by the DHSS.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. PURDUE  offered her belief  that this has added  thousands of                                                               
background checks  to the process,  even though it uses  the same                                                               
seminal   information   that   the  licensing   board   and   FBI                                                               
fingerprinting uses.   The ASHNHA  questions whether this  can be                                                               
more efficient  but not lower  the standards or impact  the BON's                                                               
ability to  regulate licensees.   She  further asked  if expenses                                                               
and  complexity will  be cut.   She  looked forward  to the  work                                                               
group process  and to  participating vigorously.   She  closed by                                                               
saying  that the  recent  focus has  been on  the  CNA, so  those                                                               
individuals have  a very short  training time and make  about $16                                                               
per hour.  These jobs provide  the backbone of the care industry.                                                               
She emphasized that  she is very focused on  jobs being available                                                               
in rural Alaska.  Anything that  the ASHNHA can do to ensure that                                                               
those individuals obtain employment  is important, which includes                                                               
background  checks,  taking  timely   tests,  and  ensuring  that                                                               
classes  are available.   She  thanked members  and assured  them                                                               
that the ASHNHA is ready to participate in the process.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  noted that  she raised  a good  point that                                                               
the issue  might not  rest with  the FBI and  may rest  with [the                                                               
legislature and the state].                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:27:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BEVERLY SMITH,  Media and Legislative, Christian  Science Church,                                                               
stated that she has no desire to  hold up the bill.  She has held                                                               
discussions  with  the Chair  of  the  Board  of Nursing  and  is                                                               
willing to  work with the board  during the interim.   First, the                                                               
Christian Science  Nurses refer to themselves  only as "Christian                                                               
Science  Nurses"  and  would  never  hold  themselves  out  as  a                                                               
"nurse."  She explained that they  have been in operation for 106                                                               
years  and there  has never  been any  confusion anywhere  in the                                                               
world  with this  term.   The "Christian  Science Nurses"  do not                                                               
advertise in  the yellow pages,  but do advertise in  a religious                                                               
publication  so  someone seeking  the  services  of a  "Christian                                                               
Science Nurse"  would know where  to look  for the service.   She                                                               
thinks  it is  a  little  strange that  a  person  could live  in                                                               
Michigan  and  practice  this  religious  practice  and  use  the                                                               
services  of  "Christian Science  Nurses"  but  cannot do  so  in                                                               
Alaska and thought that there  should be some accommodation.  She                                                               
referred  to a  letter  in members'  packets  from the  Christian                                                               
Science - Committee on Publication  for Alaska [dated 4/15/2014].                                                               
She pointed  out the first  amendment issue for  practicing one's                                                               
religion.   She mentioned  the model  nurse practices  act, which                                                               
has  a  suggested  accommodation  for  caring  for  the  sick  in                                                               
accordance  with  tenets  and   practices  related  to  religious                                                               
denomination  that  teaches  reliance   on  spiritual  means  for                                                               
healing.   She reported that  most other  states in the  U.S. and                                                               
other countries do permit "Christian  Science nurses" to practice                                                               
in their  jurisdiction through  regulation, statute,  or advisory                                                               
opinion.   Again,  the Christian  Science church  is looking  for                                                               
such  an  accommodation  in  Alaska   so  its  citizens  who  are                                                               
Christian Scientists can practice their religion fully.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON said that working with the BON is a good start.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:31:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SADDLER  asked   how   many  Christian   Science                                                               
practitioners are in Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SMITH answered that the  practitioners are different than the                                                               
"Christian Science nurses."   She estimated that  perhaps five or                                                               
six practitioners are  in the state and  fewer "Christian Science                                                               
nurses" since they currently cannot practice in Alaska.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  asked how  many  practice  the faith  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. SMITH  suggested it is a  small group, in the  hundreds.  She                                                               
related Christian  Science nursing facilities exist  in the Lower                                                               
48, similar  to a  hospital, and the  services are  reimbursed by                                                               
Medicare  and other  insurance companies.   She  anticipated that                                                               
the potential  "Christian Science nurse" would  provide home care                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on SB 166.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON remarked  that this  is an  interesting                                                               
issue  and is  something he  taught about  the constitution.   He                                                               
said if  a law has  general application then everyone  is subject                                                               
to it.  The other theory is that  one has to be sensitive to free                                                               
exercise  issues  and  accommodate  those  issues  in  the  least                                                               
restrictive way possible.   He said two  strains of jurisprudence                                                               
exist and he has previously  represented nurses [as a lawyer], so                                                               
he understands the need to  keep the "nurse" title as privileged.                                                               
He also  recalled that naturopaths called  themselves doctors and                                                               
sometimes the terms are a  little confusing.  He acknowledged his                                                               
comments just represent a discussion point.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:34:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HERRON  moved  to  report CSSB  166(FIN)  out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection, CSSB  166(FIN)  was                                                               
reported from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB166 ver H.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Sponsor Statement ver H.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Sectional Analysis (H).pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Fiscal Note- DCCED-CBPL-3-14-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Summary of Changes ver R to H.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Draft Proposed Amendment ver H.1.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Opposing Documents-Email and Letter Beth Gartner Farnstrom 4-05-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-2014 Nursing Stats.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-FBI Integrated Automated Fingerprint ID System Audit pgs 1-3.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Email Evans 2-28-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Email Gillette 2-9-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter APNO 3-14-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter DCCED re Background Checks 02-11-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter Farnstrom 3-01-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter AG-Christian Science Committee 10-13.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter FBI to DCCED 7-5-05.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB166 Supporting Documents-Letter DCCED Sanders 2-28-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 166
SB156 ver U.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Fiscal Note-DCCED-CBPL-03-07-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Darcy Lucey 2-6-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Peggy Downing 2-5-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Sarah Taygan 2-3-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Susan Terwilliger MAA 2-3-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-CDM Annual Report FY 13.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-CDM Statutes and Regulations 9-2013.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Barbara Norton 1-30-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Don Habeger SL&C Follow up 3-17-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB156 Supporting Documents-Letter from Cheryl Corrick CDM Board 2-21-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 156
SB167 ver A.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB167 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB167 Fiscal Note-DCCED-DOI-02-20-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB167 Supporting Documents-Letter NAMIC.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB167 Supporting Documents-Infograph (2).pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB167 Supporting Documents-Letter Lessmeier & Winters 2-27-2014.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 167
SB183 Ver A.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183
SB183 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183
SB183 Fiscal Note-DCCED-AEA-03-17-14.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183
SB183- Supporting Document- EETF Fund Award Project Write Ups 11 16 12.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183
SB183- Supporting Document- EETF Award News Release 11 16 12.pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183
SB183- Supporting Document- EETF Round 1 Project Status Updates - Feb 2014 (2).pdf HL&C 4/15/2014 3:15:00 PM
SB 183